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president of iran hassan rourhani. >> we are prepared seriously and without wasting time to enter negotiations with the other side which are serious and substantive. >> so what do you think? is this new president of iran more moderate than ahmadinejad? >> he's less colorful than al qaeda -- ahmadinejad. but doesn't mean he's less of this group. in regard to the nuclear program, they are all on the same page. they're trying to find the most effective way to defy and defeat the whole world. so i think the real issue -- i cannot in the way of someone wants to talk to them or try to talk to them. but any contact with them, any negotiation with the new limits in a way that will make sure that the strategic clarity of the need to block iran from turning nuclear will be kept in mind so that long before starting 2014, iranians should know, probably behind closed doors. no need to embarrass them in public. they should know that either they are serious about putting an end to the nuclear military program or else. >> the form he defense minister of israel, the former prime minister of israel
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